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Religion vs desires
September 07 2018
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RHP User
7 years ago
This is probably the best question I've seen posted in a long time. I worked for a husband/wife team many years ago - they were devout Adventists, but equally devout swingers. They seemed to have no problem with it. I would say ''if you are both okay with it then it shouldn't be considered cheating'', but those of a religious persuasion would probably beg to differ. My ex was a Sunday Christian, she was an avid fan of sex and told me that god/the bible has no problem with sexual desire but only between a husband and wife. Whose husband and whose wife, the bible does not mention so you could get off on a technicality when quizzed about it by god when you die.
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RHP User
7 years ago
My local catholic priest had the same problem.so did the Christian brothers where I was sent to school..Let me tell you this fella..every person who I have ever flogged.. stolen from, turned over on, left a physical and/or emotional wreck.. or worse.. is the legacy of that "Confusion" AND.. IF there IS a Heaven, then there MUST be a Hell, and I know where the fuck them cunts are/will be.YOUR fucking choice. Choose well fella.
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tcm70
7 years ago
Pretty deep topic, tho I believe it comes down to your own choice, as most other aspects of your life are. One of my first gf’s when I was late teens/early twenties was religious and loved sex to, tho at times she really struggled with similiar as what you have asked here OP. Not that we were swinging, but just sex in general. I believe also that religion has a lot to answer for in how society has many issues now, think about it, racism, sexism, homophobia and others all stem from religious beliefs throughout history, as religion is what virtually all societies have built their foundations and laws on. From my time with that gf, I did learn a fair bit about how religion works.i was one of those pesky guests who did nothing but ask questions, most of which couldn’t be answered by any reply other than “it’s Gods will”. I can see that some people need it, but a lot of what I saw from religion was hypocritical and mostly worked on guilt trip type mentality, or gives peace by allowing god/Jesus to absorb your faults, like an omnipotent scapegoat. Each to their own tho, and I guess you need to decide yourself what way you will continue to live your life. Myself personally, I’m far from religious, daresay I’m atheist, tho I do believe in basic Christian principles such as, do as to others as you would have them do unto you. I’d suggest that if you’re struggling to find an answer within yourself, you might want to either question your new found religious calling, or your sexual desires. But, don’t you have your sins forgiven every Sunday? Gives you a clean slate for a week. 😉
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RHP User
7 years ago
Ive never had a religious bone in my body and I never will. OMG Im goin straight to hell for that one 🏃 💨💨💨💨
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RHP User
7 years ago
Its a never ending battle so to speak,its about what the souls wants and what the flesh desires. Me speaking for myself i know this is all wrong but the flesh has very strong desires which are hard to overcome. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Only you can answer what your faith/religion/texts say about sexual activity. You don't specify *which* religion you feel drawn to. A lot of various faiths don't actually lay down any, or complete, rules for how they expect their adherents to behave sexually, but as most religions are ultimately about control then inevitably there is an *expectation* of being puritanical or what we might call very straight-laced. Making it harder, many religious directives were laid down in a time vwry different from today. Some of those rules are nowadays rightly seen as archaic or inappropriate, but any sexual directions are often still taken at face value. For instance, the Bible is pretty clear about homosexuality, but it is also pretty clear about some other stuff that nobody would countenance today. So why is one rule ignored but not the other? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
the priest told me.. "Pray hard and God will give you what you ask for"I prayed for a bike.. I prayed up a storm... but.. "Fuck all your honour!!!!"Then I realized HOW it worked.... I stole one, and prayed for forgiveness.. Like TCM said..GO be the adulterous fucking whore you want to be on Saturday night - get absolved from your sins on Sunday .. IT works for the Clergy anyway
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RHP User
7 years ago
Maybe its the church that isnt doing it for you. What faith are you. Have you tried a penticostal church. Abit more hip . And fun for someone your age. Talk to the pastor . - Posted from rhpmobile
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tcm70
7 years ago
If you look at how a lot of different faiths that use the bible are formed, it’s generally that somebody had a slightly different vision of what a certain passage of the bible meant, so a new faith was formed to suit. I know a couple of gay blokes that interpreted the one about that if ‘two men lay together they shall get stoned’ into a literal reason to smoke dope!!
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AnnieWhichway
7 years ago
Most religious people have double standards. They think they can make it all good again by going to church and confession, saying a few hail Mary's and they are all holy again. Well it's all a crock of shit Those in charge your faith are just animals. Not just Catholics. The priestthat molested me was baptist.if he was still alive, he would be answering to me. But l checked, he"s dead. Saved someone the trouble So before the the thread is deleted, l have no time for religion and the false bullshit it stands for. It causes most wars and is responsible for so much misery over the eons. I think I've made my position on the topic clear. Go duck your heart out. Religion is fucked Amen
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RHP User
7 years ago
as a 6 year old I flew out of the car and ended up on the footpath during a left hand turn on my way to Sunday school with the Sunday school teacher, I took it as a sign and never when again.
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EarthQueen
7 years ago
But I say bend the rules to suit yourself. Most religions do it all the time anyway. As long as you treat consenting others with kindness and respect who will it hurt?
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RHP User
7 years ago
I know that religion is true and if you dont belive me just ask the easter bunny and santa clause :D Really some people. 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑 🐑
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RHP User
7 years ago
Well said Snap Dragon. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I was born labeled as a follower of one of the Abrahamic religions of our world. Being a curious kid, I asked questions and ended up in uni doing a research over religions. It was early in childhood that I started to think something wasn’t quite right with God or how he was portraited in those books. Then I fell in love for the first time. From there on things took a really strange turn, like, real weird. I started to think, is God watching my naked ass from above as I make love to my girl? So I started this habit of covering my rear end. Then it felt wrong that there was a curious old man over the clouds watching me have sex, eat, shit, sleep. I didn’t like it. I started yelling at night to darkness; go away, I didn’t give anyone permission to watch me, okay??? In uni I discovered that Abraham was actually Avram, who was actually Ibrahim, who was actually Brahman. The whole of Abrahamic religions were just bad duplicates of ancient deities. If you go back far enough, like, beyond Zoroastrianism and Hinduism, you’ll end up with Sumerians. These guys lived thousands of years ago, and they have these legend called Gilgamesh. Which tells the story of a warrior king who causes a hell of a lot of mischief running after women and fights. So much that you come across a massive flood where one man was forced to build an ark to save himself and animals and exits the ark only after one of the birds he released returns back. Familiar much? I’ll tell you something else; There are dozens of Gods and prophets that were born on same day with Jesus, then crucified, then resurrected. There are about 4000 religions on earth that we know of. Some of which started 9000 years ago. I stopped worrying about a voyeorist old man watching my rear ending years ago after I researched this stuff for uni. It’s 2018 mate. You are troubled because your moral framework and ethics regarding sex clashes with that of religion? People have been having sex with the purpose of taking pleasure with those they are attracted to since the beginning of time. It’s just natural. And you are conflicted because your instincts clash with a belief system? It just means that one of those is not in your nature and you need not follow it. Guess which one? - Posted from rhpmobile
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FeistyFatty
7 years ago
Definitely not something i subscribe too. Have found those who are heavily indoctrinated to any religion to be the most hypocritical, pious, morally corrupt of people. Religion has great bones (Commandments) to structure ones own beliefs and moral compass around. These can be used as a guideline and adapted to each individual and their own life. Reading your post though OP, it sounds like you had already tempered your desires and lifestyle prior to a "life changing calling to religion"? - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I have differing notions on this topic. I see personally see no issue if a person believes in god and trusts that he will look after them. Where I have an issue is when that belief transgresses to others and has potentially real life impacts, ie, no amount of prayer of belief would change the outcome as it is something fully entrenched in real and tangible ways. As an example one half of my family are devout Christian and believe to the higher power. Where this went wrong was in relation to their car that was unroadworthy and basically a death trap if driven on the road. It was rusted, worn and dangerous steering issues and stamped as defective for towing. I drove the the thing 500m before returning it back to him saying I would not drive it until the issues were taken care of. His response? “God will look after you” That very moment changed my opinion significantly. I mean that’s fine to believe but to risk my life, my child and other toad users was bewildering.... Slightly off topic but as someone who works with technology and scientific fact and research wins the day for me. So, in conclusion, believe what you want, but only to the power and righteousness of yourself. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Road users.... Not sure I’ve seen a toad user, but we sure have an awful lot of em up here 🐸 - Posted from rhpmobile
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MissRedFox
7 years ago
And if I'm going to do the Jesus thing I'm it 100percent I think it's hypocritical to bend the rules You need to decide for yourself what's right for you and what you believe. You're not accountable to anyone but yourself and any God You choose to believe in. No one else can give you the answer in what you can live with. Your desires are normal acting on them goes against your beliefs - the choice is yours And can I say I have visited church on occasion since leaving and all I can say is how sexy many of the congregation is😐 - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
I couldn’t have said it better... I dislike any form of religion(whilst I realise my approval of religion isn’t the point of discussion, I think it’s directly related.) as every religion is about armeggeddon(can never spell that word). Every single one of them are solely about bringing on the end of the world with only those who subscribe to a particular way of life being worthy of an afterlife....which lets face it, gives justification for some to be dead set cunts and use the fear of not being worthy of matyrdom or an afterlife as a means to manipulate others into their desired outcomes.... Fuck that....I steer my world, and I’m responsible for my way.... - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
Imaginary friend.
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AnnieWhichway
7 years ago
Quoting 'Meander' Freshcpl, you best be uiet. I reported you for your ongoing bullying of Annie, and I'm glad to see your nasty posts are gone. Thankyou
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RHP User
7 years ago
outta here
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RHP User
7 years ago
Its interesting to note.... that in cultures without organised religion(tribes, more usually).... the set of rules they follow are similarly aligned to those which were drafted within the constructs of religion. So without the central focus of a deity, humans managed to cobble together a Code of Conduct to abide by and essentially get along within their micro-society. I am not religious, but I do have certain views towards a connectivity to nature, and a general recycling of molecular energy. Sex is behavioural, behaviour is subject to change, tastes, circumstance and environment .... do what makes you happy with other people who are made happy through your behaviour. DG
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RHP User
7 years ago
Oh no such a party pooper. - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
7 years ago
and you seem a creature of extremes judging by your post and profile. I have a highly cynical perspective of 'Religion' presided over by It's agents, Men, and Women who have taken advantage of the power they have because they claim it is 'His' word. But let's face it, that sort of thing has been an open secret for decades as are so many other things that are being spoken about more openly these days. I had a very different experience that the best people I knew as a young 'un and still know and admire had verses in their home that gave me hope I mattered at the time. I got those young 'uns involved in the Sunday School run the church I attended with them a time or two organised if there were enough recruits. They reminded me a few years ago (after I found them, thanks FB 🤗) that I got them involved and that continued for years after I left. They moved into the place of running the bus that had picked us up over the years. Beautiful for me, as I hope you can imagine. :-) I didn't mention my foster parents were swingers?... She'd left by the time I turned 10 and 3 years later, I ended up living at a Catholic Home, attending a Catholic school in between times, and still lived at the Home when I got my first job that happened to be within sight of that same church where I attended Sunday School though I lived 2 buses away from where I had as a kid. Anyway, I can't swear by it but from what I hear Jesus was a randy bastard who dipped his wick in many candle holders in his short 30+ years. Peachy,🕎
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RHP User
7 years ago
Quoting 'MrMojoRisin' Imaginary friend. ........neither do I !!
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