F68
Ohhh goody,I can't wait
July 31 2013
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RHP User
12 years ago
I am super disappointed with recent policy decisions that have been announced by both main parties. Mainly about the refugees coming to Australia and the unlawful way we have decided to treat them. Shit house!! For the first time I think I will have to vote for ............ I don't know. Is the sex party running again this election. What are their policies? Anyone?
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RHP User
12 years ago
Freya...... maybe we should run and be the equivalent La Ciccolina. God my real name is very close and I have the boobs for it and I am half Italian. Hmmm could work. Policies. 1. No undy Mundy. Wearing of all underwear is banned on Mondays. 2. All Mondays are declared public holidays from now on.3. Everyone must have sex a min of three times a week. 4. Swingers clubs to be opened in every community. 5. ........
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Paradisepair
12 years ago
Check out their policies on their website or facebook, very balanced and realistic.
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RHP User
12 years ago
no outstanding leadership possibilities for me either! Thank God we have Quentin Bryce to represent us, she speaks well, has class, and is lovely!!
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RHP User
12 years ago
I love it,you definitely have my vote...the promo video will be awesome...
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RHP User
12 years ago
but they won't win and their preferential votes will have been bargained to go to one of the two main parties...I had a look at their policies all the same and yes, most make a lot of sense to me.What a shame that in reality, it is a two horse race
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wingman2014
12 years ago
Nothing less sexy than smelly hairy angry extremists
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RHP User
12 years ago
I couldn't agree more with you about asylum seeker policies of both major parties.
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RHP User
12 years ago
La Meekalina rides stallions!
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RHP User
12 years ago
we have to realize even it is a not a main party to vote for them will give the main once a run for there money. And who knows maybe one day the voting system will be changed.I will vote Green, I like their policy and I like the way they think. I know what people say, I still belief we cant go backwards and my hope is this party will think about the future of our plant more then only money.And please to all of you out there, please don't do a "donkey vote" as it is called. Voting is important very important. It scares me that so few young women don't vote. A right we females have died for not long ago.
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RHP User
12 years ago
actually been to demos for the sex party and we know Fiona but the sex party preferences go to the greens so that's a no for us. We are both so pissed off with the major political parties that we will probably vote for Clive, Mr likes the sound of his surname. Mr is well acquainted with Mrs Palmer and her 5 daughters, lol. Don't they say never talk Politics or religion?
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RHP User
12 years ago
Meka for PM...........for life...........in fact you can be my dictatorseriously voting this election will be a nightmare Can you please start the Vote Meeka for More Party? Meeka
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RHP User
12 years ago
They simply take our money, and fuck things. I regret enrolling to vote now. Pity we can't opt out- Posted from rhpmobile
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madotara69
12 years ago
one one is a race horse, two two is one to, one one won one race, and two two won one tooMado
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RHP User
12 years ago
La Meekalina IS a Stallion???
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RHP User
12 years ago
...TUSCAN RED FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Freya for education (we could all learn a thing or two from her) Mesmerised for foreign relations (I could relate to that) Cavey for,... well Cavey could take his pick, transport (we could all ride Harleys), housing (there's lots of caves out there), the arts (cave paintings, rock carvings and have you read his poetry?) Meeka for defence (she already has an arsenal of weapons at her disposal) Little Red Engine for,... refreshments and entertainment (???) Umm, let's see, who else,...???
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RHP User
12 years ago
Boat People pay people smugglers a lot of money to enter Australia threw illegal and dangerous means.Hope people realise that migrants facing persecution who have applied for Australian citizen ship and are in UN camps awaiting background checks and been in UN camps for 7 years plus loose their spot from boat people who use people smuggler's! Is this fair? People in UN camps have applied for citizen ship in the correct manner ,have the right paperwork and get denied because their spot is taken by someone who pays $20,00 US dollars to enter this country in a way that borders on criminal behaviour.I don't want people settled in this country who use illegal mean ,destroy their paperwork and Australian property,have no background check and cue jump and expect a place here. Who are we letting in this country?Rapist ,murder's,stand over men,gangs,arsonists who burn Australian property? There is a right way and a wrong way to go about things.Sorry don't mean to sound harsh ,but how would you feel if you were in a UN camp and you applied threw correct means ,only to see your spot taken by a economic refugee ,who came here threw illegal means?Sovereignty means a lot to me !Sorry for the Rant!BTW my parents were migrants who came to Australia after having background checks and doing things the right way ,that was expected by the Government of this country.I do feel for these boat people but go about things the right way please!I Vote who i always vote for S&F Party!
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RHP User
12 years ago
Personally I think the two favourites should be sent to the Knackery but that isn't going to happen so......I haven't voted for one of the majors since the '80s, I take my vote seriously so I do my homework on the independents and minors and vote for them, the majors go last and second last to minimise the preference flow. In the Senate I do the same thing and always vote below the line so preferences go my way not someone else's. Yep it's a pain in the arse but it only happens every three years and I like to spend that 3 years with no regrets, knowing I gave it my full attention come what may.Now you may say that is a waste of a vote because no one I vote for will win. That's not the point ! The ballot box is not the betting shop ! I am voting for the person I believe will best represent my views. I am not trying to pick the winner and I think more people should bear that in mind.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I can only say this and its most WA As Premier I could get 100,00 people back to work. Traffic flowing 5% better or 10 with the introduction of a new traffic light. More low income housing As for federal Cut back on ministers Cut back there perks. Stop the boat people. Special tax for company's that go off shore for cheap labour. Re create the social service system. Change laws on overseas brides Again create jobs
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RHP User
12 years ago
UN camps were assumably they are being feed and no longer fear persecution. The asylum seekers coming here in the majority of times don't have UN camps they can go to and are often in fear of their lives and that of their family. If you were in their position, and felt that your life and your children's lives were in danger and you couldn't get to a UN camp. Would you do nothing? I bet you wouldn't. I bet if you had the money or means you would do anything and everything possible to leave that country. A bit of compassion.... Because let's face it, by some absolute stroke of luck we were born in Australia. You may not be al lucky in your next life. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/youve-been-misled-on-boat-people-here-are-the-facts-20130718-2q5rv.html
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RHP User
12 years ago
I've always been of the opinion that the country is better off taking in people who put it all on the line and forge their own destiny than take in those who stand in queue's.With appropriate checks of course and without opening the floodgates.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I would not know about that. I assume people in UN camps have all types, good hearted people as well as people of a lower standard. I just think there is a right way, and a wrong way to go about things.As for the article in the Sydney Morning Herald ,presstitutes get paid to sensationalise issues to sell papers.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Is that the vast majority of illegal immigrants that come to Australia do so via plane. The numbers are far in excess of those reaching our shores via boats. (5:1) They come here on Visas etc and then simply decide to stay.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Because that isn't sensational enough, clearly you are not going throw your baby off a plane or die in squalid conditions. Will all those plane people get sent to PNG? Kizza, that is an article by a rights activist and lawyer and he isn't dramatizing the issue at all.
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RHP User
12 years ago
...vote Green ;) ;)- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Both career educated politics who never done a decent days work in their life and nor do they need to scrape by week in, week out like our pensioners . ? They just wouldnt have a clue. Its like me trying talk indian ' I dont understand...At least Clive Palmer came from humble begiinnings and understands what struggle means, not just a word...Im sure Bob Katter has his heart in the right place.. but I doubt his ambition matchs the criteria..
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RHP User
12 years ago
Can we clone Russ Hinze in time?
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RHP User
12 years ago
I ran for Federal parliament once, and even had both major parties preference me first. Didn't come close, but I was up against the sitting Health Minister.Sometimes you just have to stand up for what you believe in even if it's not popular and won't get you elected. That will rule out the majority of candidates from the major parties, who are nothing but career politicians who ebb and flow with the opinion polls and vested interests.There are some exceptions, and our local Labor member is one, so she gets my vote. Otherwise it's the Greens, who definitely don't have all the answers, but are a lot more honest about what they are trying to achieve.I like Clive for similar reasons, but unfortunately he's a nutter.Mr C
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RHP User
12 years ago
meaning the old "she'll be right attitude", and generally have a lack of knowledge of the Westminster system I just get my name marked off the roll. That negates the obvious fee. I don't even bother marking the papers.Reason being, I reside in a blue ribbon electorate. That will give you some indication of my leanings. I was a blue collar worker after all, white collar nowI'd much rather prefer that voting is made non compulsory (actually it's only compulsory to get your name marked off the roll), then those that "vote" for a particular party are more likely to be informed and knowledgeable.Good on you Mr C for having a go , a mate of mine ran against a Fed MP, didn't have a hope in hell due to apathy
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Kizza1973' Boat People pay people smugglers a lot of money to enter Australia threw illegal and dangerous means.Hope people realise that migrants facing persecution who have applied for Australian citizen ship and are in UN camps awaiting background checks and been in UN camps for 7 years plus loose their spot from boat people who use people smuggler's! Is this fair? People in UN camps have applied for citizen ship in the correct manner ,have the right paperwork and get denied because their spot is taken by someone who pays $20,00 US dollars to enter this country in a way that borders on criminal behaviour.I don't want people settled in this country who use illegal mean ,destroy their paperwork and Australian property,have no background check and cue jump and expect a place here. Who are we letting in this country?Rapist ,murder's,stand over men,gangs,arsonists who burn Australian property? There is a right way and a wrong way to go about things.Sorry don't mean to sound harsh ,but how would you feel if you were in a UN camp and you applied threw correct means ,only to see your spot taken by a economic refugee ,who came here threw illegal means?Sovereignty means a lot to me !Sorry for the Rant!BTW my parents were migrants who came to Australia after having background checks and doing things the right way ,that was expected by the Government of this country.I do feel for these boat people but go about things the right way please!I Vote who i always vote for S&F Party! well said, logical, fair and the truth....The Labor party given us 300 billion dollars debt... the greens are radical extremist with nothing to do with the environment or saving the planet! (Mr Green excluded)but what would i know.... vote for who ever you like!
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RHP User
12 years ago
I am ashamed to be Australian in regards to what we do to this issue.I understand the issues.1: People traffickers are gangsters with little to no regard of human rights.2: We should not encourage people fleeing oppression to risk their lives on substandard boats but making it easy to enter.3: Boat people via the media and political exploitation are a significant election issue that could make or break a party.4: Owners of the boats that transport the people are barely aware of the criminality of their actions and are not the traffickers. They live on the poverty line and risk their lives for very small gain.There are many more made up issues that make me ashamed. We have methods to vet and or help these people.1: Boat people are criminals fleeing the law for there country.2: Boat people carry disease.3: Boat people harbor anti societal view and have a high proportion of potential terrorists.I am totally repulsed by the media's representation of the situation and total lack of compassion.1: Boat people are jumping the queue. 2: Boat people are a resource drain on our society.3: Boat people are violent.4: Boat people want to take our jobs.5: Boat people are nameless and their tragic deaths are used for the benefit of good (media) copy and political gain.We are a small nation in terms of people. We have plenty of space. Every person is of value, not just for being but contribute to society. They will have children and their children will be Australian. We need people to by from our shops, want houses, work and pay taxes. We take on over 100 thousand people each year we can take on plenty more. These people are not equipped to know all their options, they are fleeing for their lives. They can not just walk in and get a passport, they are in fear of their and their childrens lives. Gangsters explore their desperation and lie to them. The traffickers are multinational criminal organisations that use desperate people for gain.So what can we do?In my view we should fight organised crime, not locally but worldwide. I would strongly advocate a UN sponsored anti organised crime mandate and the creation of a multinational police force with full arresting powers. I advocate strong punishment including summary execution (this is a difficult issue but we are still at war and kill babies, children and many many more. We all pay taxes that kill innocent people.) (Debate is needed here). Lets make all involved in organised crime be in fear. I advocate a reward system for near neighbours to control people trafic.And number one, and this one will hurt us all in the short term. Open our borders, start new cities, accept everyone. We did it in the late 40's and through the 50's and 60's. We benefited as a nation. Many here are from those masses.Why do we sponsor bombs? Why does organised crime get to the people fleeing and not us with guns and forces on the ground?Boat people are human, they have names, they are just like you and me. They are in fear and need to run. Lets find a way to stop the evil few that make money from their desperation rather than punish poor desperate peoples. The evil is organised crime, can we dare to fight a power stronger than any government, without borders and without law. As for the election......I vote blank, I just sign to avoid the fine.
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madotara69
12 years ago
Quoting 'chickcara' I ran for Federal parliament once, and even had both major parties preference me first. Didn't come close, but I was up against the sitting Health Minister.Sometimes you just have to stand up for what you believe in even if it's not popular and won't get you elected. That will rule out the majority of candidates from the major parties, who are nothing but career politicians who ebb and flow with the opinion polls and vested interests.There are some exceptions, and our local Labor member is one, so she gets my vote. Otherwise it's the Greens, who definitely don't have all the answers, but are a lot more honest about what they are trying to achieve.I like Clive for similar reasons, but unfortunately he's a nutter.Mr C I do know people and listened to many, and try along the way to make sense with it all, often finding an experience that recalls a meaning that I have carried though not understood. I have been with a lot of good people only a few real arse holes. I have sat with the business leaders (local) I have sat with some of our finest musicians (rock stars) I have sat with some of the finest tradesmen and worked on commercial roof tops in high wind where you count on the mate next to you and next to him, or you are dead. I married a beautiful person and have wonderful children. I have seen the best in so many people and learnt that finding that is not difficult, so that seems to be the life rhythm for my path.Mr C That is absolutely fuck all compared to what you would be dealing with and all of it as well, to take on a challenge such as you did. I did not really just say I thought you were intelligent, I knew it therefore I meant it.Can you run for what you were chasing again? We are in desperate need for people making decisions that we can count on. It would be great to know someone who runs the whole fucking lot, because I think you are honest. I listened to a man on the abc yesterday that was kicked out for standing by his word, The inquiry proved him right and I would like to see him back in the seat. It is a good country. Who knows how long if it is not run with care.Plus I think Tuscan red has run off with my first mate and other half of a wit, Jsk.Mado
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RHP User
12 years ago
You go on and on about apathy and you won't vote ? 😔- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
I remind you all, with a great deal of frustration, that each voter decides how their preferences go. Sure the parties do deals as you have to number every square (for the lower house) and so the ALP tells the Greens they'll put the Green candidate as number 2 on the ALP how to vote cards etc. You can choose what ever order you want.As someone else said - take the time to find out just who is standing. I take great delight in numbering every square below the line for the Senate, making sure the Libs, Nats and right wing haters and god botherers are last. Voting blank means you have no right to complain about anything the pollies do as you don't get involved. Remember, bad things happen when good people do nothing. Tell your local member you don't like their boat people policy, that you're in favour of marriage equality, that we should be looking after those worse off or whatever it is you feel strongly about - they're supposed to be representing you!Once the election is finally called, keep an eye out for a website votebelowtheline which will let you sort out your order for the Senate paper beforehand.Also don't forget you can always vote early - postal votes are easy or they set up early voting places all over the country. You don't need an excuse, just go do it. Avoid the queues.Oh and I have to say that if you're seriously considering voting for Clive Palmer (nutter) or Bob Katter (hater) then you probably deserve the screwing you're getting from Campbell Newman.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Meeka has it in one.The economic refugees argument is fiction. It was invented by Ruddock in the 1990s.In many places there is no queue. None. No orderly place to line up and take your place. For many, there is no 'right way' to do this.If you were a Jew in berlin in 1939 you would also burn the passport with the "J" on it, and you would take off the yellow star, and you would pay whoever you could whatever you could to get out because you were escaping torture and murder, just like Hazaras in Afghanistan or Kurds who want to speak Kurdish in Turkey.Over 90% of boat people are found to be genuine refugees.There is no evidence that any more asylum seekers are murderers, rapists, thieves than anyone else. The ones I have met (in Port Hedland and in Villawood) ranged from professionals to labourers.People smugglers may be in it for the money, but so are lawyers, doctors, plumbers, lapdancers and authors. And don't forget: Oscar Schindler was a people smuggler
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RHP User
12 years ago
There are two things I usually don't comment on politics and religion as personally I believe both are as corrupt as each other. But after reading some of the posts re asylum seekers,here is my say. It shits me when I read or hear the bleeding heart sob stories about how we should be ashamed of how we treat Illegal Immigrants ie boat people. No its not a crime to seek asylum but it is illegal to enter any country/nation with out a visa or entry permit. These people are not poor by any standard in their country given the sheer cost of hoping on a leaking boat they are quite rich in their own country. They arrive in Australia and demand the best housing,medical treatment and all the trimmings that we don't even offer our own homeless or elderly. I have yet to see any of the politicians or people that are for opening our doors and just letting these people in put their hand up to house,feed,pay extra for the thousand of dollers in damaged to detention facilities caused by these people because they don't like something, these peopl are Illegal Immigrants nothing more nothing less. Its abiut time we looked after our own first.
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RHP User
12 years ago
charged, and care factor zilch. Its a conscience vote if anything.Sometimes I take an interest in the senate but that's about it.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I won't get started on that, to me there is no such thing. Its run and dictated by one country. Wouldn't vote the greens if my life depended on it. The country got a good glimpse of them after our last election. Voting for S&F party - Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100'UN camps were assumably they are being feed and no longer fear persecution. The asylum seekers coming here in the majority of times don't have UN camps they can go to and are often in fear of their lives and that of their family. If you were in their position, and felt that your life and your children's lives were in danger and you couldn't get to a UN camp. Would you do nothing? I bet you wouldn't. I bet if you had the money or means you would do anything and everything possible to leave that country. A bit of compassion.... Because let's face it, by some absolute stroke of luck we were born in Australia. You may not be al lucky in your next life. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/youve-been-misled-on-boat-people-here-are-the-facts-20130718-2q5rv.html the cost to get on the boat is very high, most are not from countries at war, some get her and then go back home on holidays Siri Lankini and other countries they just send them back as its not a war zone cost to get on the boat is around ten to thirty grand per person they pass through several countries that are signatory to the same convention on refugees as Australia. If we had no welfare they would not come, most illegals go to countries that have welfare. Pakistan males over load the boats, note most are males and if the boat goes down , most that drown are women and kids. the boats get set on fire by males that can swim so that there is a sos and boats rush to get there but the boat often goes down faster than they anticipate. paperwork as in passports are thrown out the back of the boat as soon as they see ships come to them. Often they will not say what country they are from at all, and say they are from war torn country when they are not. q jumping by people with money leaves the others sitting in camps, the people that really need to get here. the cost is into billions now there was only one boat in 18 moths before the Labour government took over and again same thing will sink the Labour government again. Austalians do care for refugees, and are happy to take them. Boat people do not fit into that and I get so mad that anyone would risk their child to go to see in a boat just to get a better paid job in Australia. how can you say a persons life is in danger if they go back there on holidays?
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RHP User
12 years ago
that's why locals cant afford rents, all the fat cat lawyers and government workers are getting fatter Quoting 'kingoftheroad'Meeka has it in one.The economic refugees argument is fiction. It was invented by Ruddock in the 1990s.In many places there is no queue. None. No orderly place to line up and take your place. For many, there is no 'right way' to do this.If you were a Jew in berlin in 1939 you would also burn the passport with the "J" on it, and you would take off the yellow star, and you would pay whoever you could whatever you could to get out because you were escaping torture and murder, just like Hazaras in Afghanistan or Kurds who want to speak Kurdish in Turkey.Over 90% of boat people are found to be genuine refugees.There is no evidence that any more asylum seekers are murderers, rapists, thieves than anyone else. The ones I have met (in Port Hedland and in Villawood) ranged from professionals to labourers.People smugglers may be in it for the money, but so are lawyers, doctors, plumbers, lapdancers and authors. And don't forget: Oscar Schindler was a people smuggler and the lawyers and government workers get the housing and the locals loose their house cause they cant pay the rent of the people that feed of this industry. Its not just boat smugglers that feed of this. and people smugglers are in the death industry, I hardly think that equates to Lap dancers. and I think there was a rapist that ended up in a university dorm, or is that just rumour? but true, we should open up our heart and wallet, so please just put your full name and address and how many bedrooms you have spare, also if you can take in one of our own homeless as well and the people that smuggle today are not like in nazi Germany, at all to make that comparison is sickening you make them sound like its heroic , in Germany it could cost your life to help people. the boat smugglers it costs them a percentage of the take is all
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RHP User
12 years ago
I don't want people settled in this country who use illegal mean ,destroy their paperwork and Australian property,have no background check and cue jump and expect a place here. Who are we letting in this country? Rapist ,murder's,stand over men,gangs,arsonists who burn Australian Rapists, criminals and murderers... seriously? You honestly beleive that coming from a migrant background..? I dont agree with Australia being a safe haven for illegal immigrants- but it is pure ignorance and lack of education to even imply what you are saying. Most of the people migrating illegally are forced into it. In most cases it is simply because of what country they are migrating from.
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RHP User
12 years ago
let us remember that voting in Australia is NOT compulsory SHOWING UP to have your name crossed off the list is the compulsory part, up to you what you put on the paper, although, if you use your donkey vote, you can't complain later about whoever gets the job
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RHP User
12 years ago
They do remarkably well while pursuing their own ends. Look at the way they have so many of you focused on such an inconsequential issue as boat people. As Tuscan has pointed out, the vast majority of illegal immigrants arrive by plane, boat people account for the merest fraction. The cost of intercepting and transporting them is grossly inflated by including costs of naval and coast guard vessels and crews who, if they were not conducting these missions would be sitting idly in dock or out on training maneuvers which is of the same expense. These claimed costs of millions pale when compared to our deficit which is in the tens of billions or the national debt which is in the hundreds of billions. Sorry folks, you've had the wool pulled over your eyes.
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Socsio
12 years ago
You can walk into an australian airport and say I want asylum. You are put up in a beautiful hotel until you are proccessed. Those that come by boat have the money to pay/bribe indonesian officials for visas, passports. They have the money to pay for safe passage. They come by boat because they are not true refugees. Detention is a.means that has been used in Australia for years, 60 years ago they were used to detain those who were German, or thought to be Geman by unfortunate last name, this was to keep them and australians safe, you could leave when the war was over or join the australian army to prove alliance. iDetentention was used 40 years ago for the 10 pound poms. It is only now people are crying unfair. They are crying unfair as the want everything handed to them - from the country they know gives free hand outs. I love this country and I will never compain that the first year of my life here was in detention I am proud to say I am an Australian citizen but I came over as a 10 pound pom ( or my familes case 10 Pound paddys) Yes those that got off the ships with No family here to take them in, were put in detention. Two of my family members we shiped back to ireland because they had typhoid - those who had any contagious disease was not welcome. We were processed and our whole family lived in half water tank house (7 adults and 3 children). Every morning the compound gates were open at 5.00am. Every able bodied man left the compound in search of work and was back in the compound by 7.00 pm. When the men secured work, pays were collected until enough money was made to secure a bond for a home outside the complex. The rule was, we got jobs, proved we could keep the jobs, paid for new accomadation , then and only then were we released from detention. Hence I also am in favor of proper processing which could be done a lot quicker if people came using legal means.
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yankmychain56
12 years ago
OOOPS! wrong country!
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RHP User
12 years ago
How about let us not forget...this is not a political site Idiots, or a site for views so stop ranting people ...there are other sites for that so whoever started this thread should not bring this site down to their levels or beliefs..no matters how one eyed and bigitol they are....lol..sorry princess..hmm sarcasm lol even though the labour party does suck assand as for compulsory voting they can felch my ass MWAHAHAHAAHAAHA
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RHP User
12 years ago
Oh And didn't mean to say you were all idiots Mwewewewehehe
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madotara69
12 years ago
If one family escaping some form of terrorism, survive the oceans storms and make it to safe waters, with visions for being taken by the safest people in the world. They have been through a lot. They can come and stay with us until they have caught up with some sleep, and let their children play.When the boat people came while my great grandmother was a child, they took her from her family, flew her to Sydney, gave her a new name Edna Yank (Yankanjarra tribe) That is up around where the boat people go for holidays. I think it is near twin towns, Byron Bay maybe Casino.So who is who, to call it they own this place. Crocodile Dundee summed it up pretty well, " It is like two fleas arguing over who owns the dog"Mado Yank
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RHP User
12 years ago
my ancestor Joshua Hyland was one of those boat people, he came here in 1856 from Glasgow...today I have been pondering our responsibilities,to who John de La Salle,called ''the least the last the lost''...our lack of compassion shames us all.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Not related to sex, put it in the off topic section. Oh you already did...Ignorance is so sexy isn't it, especially when worn as a badge of honour.Mado my time has come and gone. A second coming is unlikely, but aren't they all.Dahlink, nice summary. I always vote below the line, and get some satisfaction from putting the people I really don't like last.I love a debate, but won't play boat people tennis. Too much emotion in that one for reason.Mr C
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RHP User
12 years ago
Mado and Freya. Thumbs up from me. I saw a wonderful poster recently. If we had stopped the boats years ago then Tony Abbott would not be here... As he came to Australia by boat apparently. Shame that boat didn't drown really. Oops that's just mean now. Tuscan, I disagree with almost everything you have said. Except yes, people smugglers should be caught and punished. War is not the the only reason a person may feel the need to leave a country. We will never agree on this topic. I believe we should have more compassion. I am ashamed of out policies. Australia has caused a few global scandals about out shocking racism and lack of compassion. Pauline Hanson's policies went global in the 90's. When I was traveling people would ask me about them... Is it true Australia's were like that. Also our White Australia policy or better know as the "Two Wongs don't make a white" policy, and the Cronulla riots. I have always maintained that Australia is not racist, and I believe that on the whole we are an accepting people and allow people to maintain their cultures. This fear of boat people and taking out jobs etc, well that's people that don't understand how the economy works to making these assertions.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Another thing I don't understand. What was so wrong about increasing mining taxes ? Why do they get this special treatment for raping the land? Do people believe everything they read in the newspapers... Which all have a hidden agenda?
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abcplus1
12 years ago
............. a politician will get in.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Lets start some policies,, 1) politians pay tax like everyone else, 2) stop the BULLSHIT in the parliament, get back to real issues not hair dresser shop gossip, 3) pollies to be accountable for there fuck ups, ( name shame jail time for there fuck ups, no free ride no more 4) ...........? They forget we put them there to, protect, provide, and prosper our country, not there policy, pilfer, propaganda, privilege,, Heavy but true,, feed back could start a government, action can make a government, - Posted from rhpmobile
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madotara69
12 years ago
It wasn't Aussies that committed anything shameful, though they have made efforts to recognize the shame committed by the department of corrections and affiliated friends. They have become extinct, or at the least on the endangered species list. We are living through the period where a system that was lived by for a few thousand years, was torn apart in less than a few hundred years. The Aussies still have a few thousand years, to find spirits for good dream time meanings. The Kookaburras are having a good laugh at the Aussies. So if the oldest families of all time, laugh for the clumsy new animals trying to find rhythm with nature, things are looking promising. If the Kookaburra stops laughing we are all in big trouble, and nature will take offense and we don't want to test its patience.If your dreams are troubled, you can find some peace by looking into the Embers of a good fire under the stars in the night time. It is old medicine. There is people coming to this country that would be dreaming to sit in comfort with their loved ones just for that. No one should have their dreams turned away.If you were sitting at a fire and someone swam to its light and came to sit with its warmth and to watch the embers dance, would you throw water on the fire and send them back into the dark water, because they might want to kill you?Or throw some more wood on the fire to make the light brighter, in case some other people may be swimming in the dark water?What would you do if they were thirsty and hungry, and the children's mother was crying with them, the father exhaustedThere is no need for all you people to be bitter, yet some see it as a standard to make it set. That is a clumsy way to think. Like a Galah trying to laugh like a kookaburra when being looked at by the peacocks, to call the Gang Gang crowsEdna Yank, My nanna was a child taken from her fire and flown with the very first commercial plane flight from Queensland to Sydney, she fell asleep and woke looking down at the Clouds, she panicked because it looked like the world had blown up. She was not ever once bitter for what became of her life, and she died a peaceful lady that loved people, sitting by a fire and telling stories for making life good dreams, and never cared for much other than that. She took the tape out of a cassette and wiped it with a clean damp cloth, because she thought that is what mum meant. A bit of that has been passed down to me, though I don't get bitter in much for anyone, I do care for good dreams in anyone,where others may be bitter to it, I will show it as been seen in them and not needed. Just their best is all and needed.I think the people this country has become, are far more compassionate than where it has been lacked. People from all walks of this world are living in peace and sitting at tables as equal. It is working and it appears that speaking Mandarin is going to be the language of the world. I always thought more people were speaking English around the world, I am only out a few billion for that estimation. I would need a translating app if it was to be expected anytime soon, do not know one word of Mandarin.
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RHP User
12 years ago
@ slicks so i am ignorant and have a lack of education?Its a fact that detention centres have been burnt down, That's Australian property that our tax payer dollars pay for.Now we have to rebuild them with money that could have gone to roads,education or health.Its a fact that kids and women have been raped by people in detention centres Its a fact that these people come here by paying bribes to people smugglers.As for criminals being let into the country ,if 40,000 migrants have come to this country by illegal means,would you not thing that a % were criminals ? I doubt they are all perfect citizens I don't think i am ignorant or have a lack of education ,nor do i have the answers to solve the people smuggling/migrant issue ,but my main point was ...There is a right way ,that is the legal way to go about things ... and there is a wrong way ,the way criminals go about things.Ahhh politics ,it brings out the best in people
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RHP User
12 years ago
Keeping the big 4 bastards honest.- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
That Lady Tuscan, who I have admired and respected almost since the day I came on the site, has chosen to misstate a number of things I said, and it is sad that she made a personal attack on me. But that is her choice. There is nothing in my post that is factually incorrect, or that I would unsay or withdraw, and I don't want to repeat the whole thing again. This debate has been brutalised both here and in Australia generally to such an extent that our society and our values have been seriously diminished, and there is no easy fix. I will add one thing. Do not think, in our comfort as members of one of the most privileged countries on earth, that it could not happen to you. Jews and homosexuals were relatively well accepted in 1927, when part-Jewish film maker Fritz Lang made 'Metropolis'. By 1933 Hitler was in power and putting anti-Jewish laws through. In 1938 Kristallnacht.Society and prejudices can change with terrifying speed. It could happen here. People who today demonise refugees may one day be seeking asylum themselves.
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RHP User
12 years ago
When Captain Cook was off Kurnell in 1770, the elder watching from the mainland muttered to the tribe "bloody boat people, they'll be running the show next" we are all boat people - people, get over it
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RHP User
12 years ago
I'm so glad there's reasoned debate here. I fall on the side of those who would like boat people treated with compassion. Interesting, and perplexing, that Malcom Fraser would probably win if he stood in my very left inner Melbourne electorate. Why Australia is not processing these people in Indonesia is beyond my understanding. That would cut out the people smugglers, the deaths at sea and the detention centres. It's what Australia did in the 70s after the Vietnam war.
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RHP User
12 years ago
The Gruen transfer starts next week. It's the best thing about an election, except for Antony Green's coverage on the abc. Swoon! (Any relation mr Green?) AND, Meeka, you're so fucking sexy when you get all political. You go girl!!
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RHP User
12 years ago
How biased is the Sydney Morning Herald! Okay, they lean to the right but let's have a little subtlety about it. *rolls eyes*
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RHP User
12 years ago
Well, we have had a politician referring to Islam as a country and discussing people that follow haram, comments which hit world headlines. Now this in today's paper..... Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's 'suppository' gaffe yesterday has made news overseas. Yesterday, Mr Abbott told a Liberal event in Melbourne: "No one - however smart, however well-educated, however experienced - is the suppository of all wisdom.'' LMAO! Seriously?
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RHP User
12 years ago
that will solve the boat people issue...who would want to come here after all that....
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RHP User
12 years ago
No need for suppositorys with Kevin and Tony campaigning!I am waiting for something of substance to develop from one side or the other side with avid boredom.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Tony Abbott has been declared public enema no. 1
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RHP User
12 years ago
Abbott saying Fiona Scott had sex appeal?
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RHP User
12 years ago
No that's in response to his "suppository of all wisdom" comment.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Well American and British comedians are making jokes and skits about the Australian election. Woo hoo when other countries are poking fun at you, you know you have made it! . LOL!! We definitely need a Meekolina to flash her tits to add a touch more class me thinks.
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RHP User
12 years ago
If you saw Q&A in Indonesia a few months ago, the Indonesians do not want another processing centre in their country as there are too many people requesting asylum at these centres and having another one is not really going to help. Refugee centres/camps are not holiday resorts as some people think. I have friends who volunteered at some and they told me their stories. A friend of mine arrived in Gaza and had to be evacuated the very same day he arrived. You hear cases of militia or military attacking or bombing refugee camps. In some countries, refugees, particularly women are promised jobs and a life but made into slaves. There are several books about this, especially Burmese women who fled the military being turned into sex slaves. I support the Labor govt Malaysian Solution and the PNG solution. Is the perfect? No, but it helps and is workable. Turning the boats back worked in the US mainly because the americans had immigration officials who can make decisions on the spot in the coast guard boats. They then towed the boats back to Cuba (Country of Origin). So, if the refugees are Afghans, will the Aust Govt tow them back to Afghanistan (A bit difficult as it is land locked). The boat might be Indonesian, but the people are not Indonesian citizens. The Indonesian Govt might refuse to accept them. However, refugees are only one of many issues - the economy. The EU is looking at tax reform so that companies cannot funnel their money to offshore tax havens without paying taxes. No one wants to talk about tax reforms. Jeez, the Australian tax system is a nightmare. If Australia wants to become a service economy, having a big government with a top down approach is not the way to go. Oh yeah, don't get me started on three levels of governments - Federal, State and local. There is a lot of duplication here as well as buck passing. A three year parliamentary system is just too short a period to do anything meaningful.Sometimes, spoiling your votes makes you feel good but think about the country. If you think they are all hopeless, choose the least hopeless of the lot.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Australia actually rejects more asylum seekers per year than we accept. Get all the facts before you make generalisations. 800 children, unaccompanied minors are currently in detention centres in Darwin and throughout the countey. No parents, family, just them. Don't they deserve a better life as well. Of the 495000 refugees world wide, whilst per capita we accept the third largest number of asylum seekers, the number that actually arrives in Australia each year is only a third of 35000, which is the number left over after Europe accepts 355000 and the US accepts another 105000. 13 illegal immigrants enter Australia daily legally through airports but actually overstay their legally obtained visas and falsely claim refugee status but are found to be non genuine refugees and are deported. Australia was the 6th country to sign the UNCHR and under that agreement, as well as our governments policies, we commit a human rights violation each time we detain a person who has legally sought asylum in our country. Our deportation of more "refugees" each year than a certain e goes to show we have a process, but it's not fast enough, not that the asylum seekers are pulling a swifty. Our current policies are unlawful and despite what people may think, Australia is not the fair go everyone is promised. We still live under the idea of social Darwinism and how much more superior to anyone else we Aussies are. We treat people unfairly and exclude them based on real or perceived differences to our own idea of "normal". Exclusion or rejection of someone or something based on real or perceived differences in its basic form is discrimination. How do I know all this... One, I'm a teacher currently teaching this subject at school. 2, I prefer to know both sides of a story before I make a judgement, and have that judgement based in solid facts. 3. I live with someone who works for the immigration department. I am a human first, Aussie second and a product of my white and aboriginal heritage, my parents and my public education thirdly. Cat..... Pigeons.... Bag....
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RHP User
12 years ago
Wow, this is really an interesting one (not!)1. Introduction of temporary protection visas. Have people forgotten that Asylum seekers whose TPVs were not renewed had to return, leaving their families over here (for those who married Australians or whose children were born in Australia). Why doesn't the media talk about this? I am sorry, Australian journalism is pretty pathetic. Bring back Kerry O' Brien to 7:30. 2. Remove the ability of Asylum seekers to seek legal redress in Australian courts, except for the high court. I would love to see the high court filled with asylum seeker cases.Have I missing anything from the Liberal policy?
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Coops27M
12 years ago
LOL @ No Undy Mundy!- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
Frazer really pisses me off. He is so desperate for history to see him as something other than the prick he was.He was involved in the dismissal. He partially dismantled medibank (before medicare).He recognised East Timor as being part of Indoesia, after it was invaded by them.He helped install Mugabe in ZimbabweAt least he started SBS ;)Personally I think what happened is that his politics never really changed, just Labor and Liberal both moved to the right, past him in the intervening years.Both the major parties are totally shameful and neither will get my vote.
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RHP User
12 years ago
The government today announced it is changing it's national symbol to a CONDOM because it more accurately reflects the government's political stance. A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of pricks, and gives you a sense of security while you're actually being screwed. Damn, it doesn't get more accurate than that.
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