M64
Beggars can be choosers?
September 24 2013
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RHP User
12 years ago
Four dollars is expensive for a coffee. I would have told him to get fucked right back... That's if I wasn't left there standing with my mouth on the ground in shock that is. Lol.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I wish I'd been a fly on the wall to see how things went down Catchup, to see how you put across the McDonald's suggestion. Assuming due respect... I will and can only give what I am prepared or able to give. Around the time he was calling me a tight arse, the only thing I'd likely be offering , is a piece of my mind. . A story on the fipside, I still don't know if something we came across in a carpark was a scam. Just as we were starting the car, an older woman came up to the car with a handfull of bills in her hand and, with tears in her eyes, begged us for money to help pay her bills. We didn't look into it too deeply at the time (and I stilll do think of her and wish I'd taken more time to see if we could help in a more useful way) but the woman took the few coins we had to offer with absolute gratitude. It's difficult times we are living in. :-)
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RHP User
12 years ago
In the Tamworth area we have a couple of well known "Beggars". They usually hangout at the shopping centre in the main street but are known to work the footpath area as well, and have become cereal pests for people trying to do their shopping. What has lead them to this style of life is the topic of many a conversation around town, but they are obviously fairly smart as they now avoid asking us for money. The solution to this problem arose from a request by them for money from me and my reply was that i was just going to ask the same question of them as i had just witnessed another person giving them money so i knew they would be good for the cash. The reply from them has been the same....fuck off dickhead.... and we have not been asked again.Maybe they should be referred to as conmen not beggars....just a thought.JC
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RHP User
12 years ago
years ago I use to busk in Melbourne and every day there were two blokes that would reach in to the cooky jar and grab a few coins for a drink or something to eat, I didn't mind....sure did luv when they introduced the gold coins though, especially at first when people were getting use to the idea, with out realising and at the last minute they would flicker in the sunlight....the looks on there faces said it all...xknots
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RHP User
12 years ago
I prefer to do the pre-pay.... where a homeless person can collect a free coffee that I and others have paid for.DG
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RHP User
12 years ago
Not give him money for one. I don't usually give people money for nothing anyway. I watched a documentary on a homeless man in Sydney not that long ago. I have seen this particular man just sitting on a street corner in inner Sydney. He collects over 80 grand a year just sitting there. Not bad pocket change!- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
I used to work in the city and when I got my cup of coffee and what ever I got twothere was an old guy that slept on the bench near my work. We just gave each other the nod and I gave him the coffee and some food.sometimes i give money , yes it may go on drugs or not. But one day that person, may remember an act of kindness. If you have change then hand it over, its good for you to just give without judgment. Yes that person was silly but most people are not scammers on the street, there are a few but you soon get to know them.People are on the bones of their bums, mental health has no resources and tell a person to get a job is arrogant.They may not be able to read or write, i know this as i worked for Centrelink for seven odd years, it was my job to cut your payment of for months at a time if you were not doing what you had to do.Most people that got cut of , had mental health issues, were indigenous, were x offenders, were people with drug problems and the kind of people that employers would not look at twice.Look at the face of the person, and see yourself there on the street. its not a good place to be. I know , I lived there myself.I would go to coles cafe and wait till people finished eating and would eat their left overs. It was a short part of my life, and no i did not take drugs , nor did i drink but perhaps at the time I was in a bad place and there was no place to go to. I give the money, I say here you go honey and I hope your life is a little better today. I smile and i look right at them, I never look away from the poor or the ill or even the scammers , the scammers soon look down when you look at them and see what they are doing. instead of the pre pay, pay it forward , it does come back in a good way.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Laughing as my comment was tongue in cheek as this place was the equivalent of Double Bay in Canberra. i didnt think he was homeless I thought he was just an upper class bum
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RHP User
12 years ago
Its my form of begging
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wingman2014
12 years ago
A tour guide pointed out to me a group of people parking their new Mercedes . They were dressed in designer clothes which they changed out of and into their "begging" clothes to go to work for the day . Must be a very profitable line of work taking advantage of people's generosity.- Posted from rhpmobile
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RHP User
12 years ago
near where I live, he's not a beggar. I usually swing some cash his way whenever our paths cross, $5 or $10 generally. Be honest who is going to miss that. I rarely see him so it's not habitual on his part. He has some morals and decency as he washes what little clothes he has and dries them at the flame of remembrance at the cenotaph here.As Lady T says, you just never know.OP, in your scenario I would of done the same.
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RHP User
12 years ago
The cynic in me stops me from ever handing beggars money... I like to know that what I give is used for its intended purpose rather than saved up for booze.So instead I go to the nearest Cafe/Maccas/Woolworths etc and buy them something that they look like they need like a coffee (with a bottle of water) or food etc... have never had someone come back at me like you experienced OP.I talked one young lad into changing his approach when asking for money... when I saw him a few weeks later he was asking for food and drink and had managed to get a few items (blankets and a bag to carry things in) from people at the $2 shop in the city. Seems asking for items outside a shop where the items are sold is sometimes a better approach than asking for money for the items.The lads name was Jeff and he was 22.
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RHP User
12 years ago
If they are truly needy they will accept and be grateful for what ever they are given, ie. if we buy them a feed or a coffee(brw, coffee isn't substantial, so are they really needy?They would be on a pension and may have blown it on cigarettes, alcohol, ambling, drugs or all and don't know how to manage their money.Money means they can buy more alcohol, drugs, etc and they are not essential items, there are charities that can provide them with the essentials, like clothing, food - in the form of food banks and soup places and some provide a place to shower and wash clothes if they wanted to use those facilities but some don't they choose to have an effective look for their purpose.This is only a portion of them, some sadly have a mental problem and cannot help themselves.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I have witnessed thousands of times (due to my work) the aggressive actions of these homeless bums. I have seen innocent peolpe robbed, abused, spat on, threatened, assaulted and lots more. It is not a rare occasion, but regularly. I see people give them food, but they abuse them because they want money instead. They want the money for alcohol, drugs and smokes, therefore they are a low life bum that doesn't deserve a cent. I will acknowledge that there are a few genuine homeless people who appreciate food and water, these are the ones who have gone through hard times such as divorce, mental illness or even bankruptcy. I work to support myself, not others. If this makes me a selfish pig, then so be it.
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RHP User
12 years ago
When going to gym one morning not long ago I was confronted by a guy who wanted 2 dollars when I said sorry I don't ( never take my purse to gym ) he said well get fucked you bitch And 6 months ago when hubby and myself were walking home to our motel after going out for tea in Melb a girl was stting down crying and asked us for$20 as she had lost her handbag with her purse and phone so silly us gave her 20 to get home then decided to stop off for a drink and 5 minutes later in she waked with a friend and her handbag hubby couldn't help himself he went over and asked how the ride home went she just went red a scurried off So I would have to be considered not likely to give out money again- Posted from rhpmobile
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Tall74nHard9
12 years ago
Quoting 'Meeka100'Four dollars is expensive for a coffee. I would have told him to get fucked right back... That's if I wasn't left there standing with my mouth on the ground in shock that is. Lol. Four bucks may be expensive for a coffee, but as you'll appreciate here in ol' Sydney town, that amount only pays the deposit on the cup ! Went out with son/daughter-in-law recently for coffee - believe me $4 is nuthin for a cuppa.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Interesting topic, receiving some interesting responses... My stance is... who am I to judge? Whether the person needs the money for food or whatever - don't we do the same thing? Aren't homeless people entitled to some of life's pleasures as well? Hell... it's tough enough for them out there anyway... I always find it interesting to see 'beggars' in Perth sitting a few meters away from someone selling The Big Issue. This is a quality magazine that can be sold by people in a 'disadvantaged' situation. Half of each sale price goes to the seller, and also provided them with a degree of respect and community, as they speak to many of the people who buy the magazine. Most have a regular location, and therefore develop some form of rapport with their 'buyers'. If I see someone 'begging', I usually find a Big Issue seller, purchase 2 x copies, and give one to the beggar. The Big Issue seller therefore gets a double-whammy, and the 'beggar' is introduced into a new way of making some money for themselves. This in turn helps support The Big Issue and the great work that they do. Folks - if you see a Big Issue seller, please stop and buy a copy and have a chat - this is often sold by someone wishing to break the cycle of whatever bad is happening in their life, and trying to make a go of it. My two cents...
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RHP User
12 years ago
A couple of years ago, a gf took me out for my birthday to see a show in town.I didnt have any money on me at all, that was part of the condition that she took me out (very genenerous of her)At the end of the show, I was standing outside the theatre having a cigarette a young guy came up to me with a complicated story of how he needed a few $ so he could get back into the shelter that night.I did say I didnt have any money on me at all....he said ok, how about a giggie then.No problems , offered him one from my pack and he said no way , I dont smoke menthol .!Both of us just cracked up laughing.
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RHP User
12 years ago
Had a guy hassle me in town one day asking for $5 for a feed . He looked reasonably well dressed and not at all underfeed, so I told him sorry and walked around him... At the top of his voice he yells out.. DONT IGNORE ME.. not once 'but probally 3-4 times.. So thats exactly what I did. On the way back he was still in the same spot this time hassling a young office worker probally on her break.. I noticed she had her purse open and he picked out a $5 note.. She objected but he held his hand high out of her reach, I grabbed his wrist and took the $5 back and handed it back to the young girl.. Face to face he wasnt anywhere near the big man he displayed earlier.. told him to fuck off .. Prick..
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RHP User
12 years ago
I was living in a country town in Victoria,I couldn't find a job so I joined the Unemployed Workers Union, UWU...which was really just me and another couple..at that time the churches were handing out emergency relief monies to people in need.However it was not cash but vouchers which were stamped''No pet food,no tobacco''...the Minister for Social Security decided to give the emergency relief moniesto the UWUs I am not sure how many there were in Australia at the time but he funded them all....he was an outgoing minister and he knew that this was the lastof the funding and he considered that the people it was meant for had not been treated well by the churches.For me this was a truly humbling experience.It was fruit picking season,there were many itinerant workers who had come to town for work...there was none.When word got out ,we had a queue of people all the way down Main Street.We asked them what they needed and gave it to them.Did any of those people lie,maybe,but they would have been very much in the minority.Who are we to judge people who, for whatever reason find themselves in those circumstances.We live comfortable lives in the so called Lucky Country,lucky for some,not for others.
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RHP User
12 years ago
I work in the Sydney CBF and I pay $3.50 for a large coffee. Handmaiden are you serious?? $80k! Do you think if I stand on a street corner with my norks out I could double that!!
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RHP User
12 years ago
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Tall74nHard9
12 years ago
That's good, but it'd cost me more to get there for the cheaper coffee - will have to make do with home made. Yeah, that CBF CBD I get that, usually coz of my bloody long fingers and typing too quick. Tall
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RHP User
12 years ago
I don't regard as begging as I gladly will pay to be entertained, Meeka $80,000 per boob is achievable There's been some great responses to this topic of the bloke who made me think that there's no compromise when it comes to the taste of coffee
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RHP User
12 years ago
Quoting 'Catchup62'Laughing as my comment was tongue in cheek as this place was the equivalent of Double Bay in Canberra. i didnt think he was homeless I thought he was just an upper class bum I don't live in an affluent/ as opposed to an effluent district (pun well intended) hehe, but I do get the irony. Funny...
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RHP User
12 years ago
I think I love you
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RHP User
12 years ago
before the second world war was extremely poor and spent a lot of time living in hostels for the homeless in both Paris and London...his fictionalised account of this time is ''Down and Out in Paris and London''...worth a read.
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madotara69
12 years ago
I met a mate in the city (Sydney) sounds so much better. He wanted to take me to his favorite restaurant for breakfast. When we got there I was a little taken at the amount of homeless people in the place. A meal cost five dollars, that was well worth fifteen, maybe twenty dollars anywhere else. It was a good and tasty feed.My mate put the change from a fifty dollar note into the jar on the counter, as he told me why this was such a special place to eat.Those homeless people did not spend the five bucks on clothes, they sat quietly and ate their breakfast.Mado
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RHP User
12 years ago
there was a beggar with his dog on the street corner near my hotel and it was pouring down hard. Im watching him pull out a hot dog but only takes one bite and gives the rest to the pup. For whatever reason came over me I crossed to Subway and bought him 3 footlong subway meals(yes and the cookies too) He actually tried to give me $5 for it. Then you have our Sydney and one asks for $2 for the train cause they are short snd in a rush. 5 minutes later I'm walking past and they asked again. When I said I gave you $2 already they piss bolted... So it always depends doesnt it?- Posted from rhpmobile
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