Loneliness and health

Loneliness and health

    | Mar 14, 2019
countrytouch82   Man 36yrs
Well well well...

I came across a so called news item recently, and many versions can be found by googling "loneliness compared to smoking".

The crux is about statistics that supposedly show loneliness being as bad for you as other health or lifestyle problems, or comparitive to 15 cigarettes a day with regard to age expectancy, stress, heart problems etc etc (assuming it continues long term).

Certainly for those without a partner (or possibly those with one if you aren't connecting well), some might relate to the issue of loneliness at times, but it's news to me how it might affect long term physical health. You would normally relate it to mental problems, depression etc, but then of course these can also lead to physical problems.

Would you give this concept much credit? Do you think the physical health effects as a result would only concern those more elderly folks? If you are much young/er, have you thought about health side effects of such loneliness? Do you try to combat it in other ways, by spending more time with others in general, or by doing more to keep fit and healthy and eating well?

Any other thoughts on the matter?



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luvu2  

Man 60yrs

Ballarat is a the problem
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Missywriter  

Woman 41yrs

Loneliness

In my opinion loneliness can have an effect on you mentally which can lead to physical symptoms for sure.



After my ex hubby left me, the feelings of abandonment and loneliness were consuming, so much so I developed a situation which needed surgery.... after lots of “giving my head a wobble” and looking at alternatives rather than traditional medicine I used lots of healing, meditation, mindful thinking, hypnotherapy etc.... believe what you will, whether it was a placebo?? It got me out of a dark place where I began to love myself and know my worth.... all my physical symptoms just went away.... even my surgeon was dumbfounded 🥰
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Qefenta4  

Woman 100yrs

Loneliness

Loneliness is an epidemic .It can indeed affect a person's health...particularly mental health.There used to be extended families ,not so much now.People are much more mobile.I have lived in two different countries and two Australian states but I have a small group of wonderful friends and a daughter I am extremely close to

It's not just older people that suffer from loneliness ,many young people are estranged from their families and don't have more than superficial friendships.Facebook friends also don't count.

Making friends requires effort but many people are so socially isolated that they lack the opportunity.

Humans are pack animals so it's in our DNA to want to belong . We have also been socialised to think that we should be part of a couple ,but the truth is for some ,this is not going to happen People can also experience loneliness while being part of a couple?

We need to change our view of how to live with and enjoy our own company,Many people hate the thought of spending time alone but the reality is unless we can appreciate our own company how can we expect that others will want to spend time with us?

Great topic CT,

Hugs Q
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Gr8distraction   Man 46yrs

Do you think it's loneliness or boredom

That has the impact.
I enjoy my own company, and i do pretty well at occupying my own time. Sure i enjoy other peoples company also, but its not as though i need to be in someones pocket, or vice versa.

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Qefenta4  

Woman 100yrs

Tuesday

On SBS,8.30. Loneliness is a topic on Dateline.
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countrytouch82   Man 36yrs

The latest article was a reference for such reasons to create better town/city planning, social and entertainment areas, common commuting, functional spaces, and housing structures that create a bigger sense community and belonging even if you happen to live alone. For the benefit of at least one person above, country towns often have a great sense of community while some people living in the heart of the inner city can still feel isolated. The amount of physical space and/or population around you is not necessarily relevant.

For example, Google the "Coffin Homes" of Hong Kong.
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FatFunFiesty  

Woman 38yrs

Great Topic CT...... Googling as we speak.
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Snap_Dragon   Woman 40yrs

Definitely agree

The evidence has been coming out for awhile now, about the significant effect that loneliness can have on people's health - both mental and physical (also taking into account that mental and physical health are strongly linked with each affecting the other).

Social isolation and loneliness are not limited to the elderly and can be due to a number of reasons. I know this from experience.


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Snap_Dragon   Woman 40yrs

One specific example

Social isolation and loneliness are now known to be one of the risk factors for dementia.

Some people may find this surprising, but when you start to think about all the flow-on effects of the lack of a support network in a person's life (on their diet, amount of physical activity, level of cognitive stimulation, stress and depression, cortisol levels, sleep patterns, ability to access health and social services, lack of help with practical and financial matters, etc etc), it's actually not very surprising at all.
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Earthling24   Man 68yrs

Agree too.




Yes great topic CT. I also agree that country towns do have a greater sense of community. I live on the Surfcoast (Vic) and find it welcoming and inclusive. I worked in Ballarat for a while and found it even moreso. My time in Melbourne was somewhat isolated. Lots of people but not too willing to engage in conversation.
I do think that lonliness can be detrimental to both mental and physical health. As can being in the wrong relationship.
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Kokoflamingo  

Woman 55yrs

Coffin Homes




Im shocked! I can only imagine the loneliness and despair you would feel living there. It was very sad to read and see. Its a disgrace that people and families are housed in these buildings.
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countrytouch82   Man 36yrs

Coffin homes are simply the result of continuing increase in housing costs in very populated but supposedly prosperous cities like Hong Kong. In short, it becomes the only private space those on a F/T minimum wage or less can afford. New designs are making new versions of communal living like modernised uni dorms. Cleaners and other domestic servants working F/T may not even afford these, living in a floor space within the property owner's own apartment. Look also for the recent ABC doco "World's Busiest Cities" on HK.
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OkeyDoke45   Man 49yrs

Being friends with one's self...




Quoting 'Gr8distraction'

That has the impact.
I enjoy my own company, and i do pretty well at occupying my own time. Sure i enjoy other peoples company also, but its not as though i need to be in someones pocket, or vice versa.


I am exactly the same. I live alone and have no problems with loneliness - but I do the things I love to do and really enjoy myself. I do what I want until I don't feel like doing that anymore, then I do something else. I go out socially once every couple of months thereabouts, and I enjoy catching up with people but simply could not do it all the time.

There are many that simply cannot stand being alone though, I have a friend who is exactly this and he knows it. He is very confident when around others, his confidence totally leaves him when he is alone (we have talked about this curiosity).

I can no more understand those that need the company of others than they can me.
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OkeyDoke45   Man 49yrs

The tip of the iceberg...

Absolutely, I think loneliness is linked to general health. I also think we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg.

As Q has mentioned, we are much more mobile these days and tend to move about and away from our family and friends. Couple that with the isolating factor of social media, the fact that many people can see others having an awesome time on their ''feeds'' while they are at home eating corn chips on the couch.

Add into all that the fact that people are so much more complicated now than they once were. Take work for example - I know that from my perspective, I find the modern workplace to be way more of a headfuck than it was a couple of decades ago. Come the end of my day I am usually so over the human race, home is a welcome respite.

But then again, are people more complicated now? Or have I just grown less tolerant of people as I grow older? Both?
Are people becoming more isolated because they just can't deal with confrontation - which is part and parcel of everyday human interaction?

So many questions. I think I need to go and have a lie down.
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Snap_Dragon   Woman 40yrs

Important to note

I think, that there is a big difference between being alone, and being lonely.

If you're choosing to be alone and prefer it that way for some or even most of the time, that's fine and that's usually the case for introverts (of which I am one). However, even introverts almost always need at least some social interaction and close human connection at times.

It's when people have limited or no options for that social and human connection when they want / need it, that they can start to feel loneliness and it can start to affect their health.
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oddconnection   Man 32yrs

I love the irony in this lonliness trend of modern society. We are more socially connected via internet and phones and guff yet more people feel alone than ever. It's so easy to fix. Stop walking around with your heads buried in your phone. Look up and see people eye to eye, then smile ya miserable bastards. People smile back and generally are friendly.
Go have a real experience in life instead of living a pseudo one on-line.
Facebook is mostly used for self validation..
Instagram is for followers..
Twiddle is for tweeting twats..
They all just end up being a distraction from real life. I truely believe it trains people to have ADD.
It warms my heart seeing mothers and fathers ignore their partners and children to gaze endlessly into their phones whilst at the resturant table.
What psychological message are sending to your kid when you arnt acknowledging their existence in preference to staring at your phone.

The call function is where its at peeps.. Better than that real time.. 🎶 life.. be in it...live more of your life🎶
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Gr8distraction   Man 46yrs

I could agree with that




Quoting 'Snap_Dragon'

I think, that there is a big difference between being alone, and being lonely.

If you're choosing to be alone and prefer it that way for some or even most of the time, that's fine and that's usually the case for introverts (of which I am one). However, even introverts almost always need at least some social interaction and close human connection at times.

It's when people have limited or no options for that social and human connection when they want / need it, that they can start to feel loneliness and it can start to affect their health.

Its a feeling. Not a fact.
Whilst it could be confusing and/or painful, recognise and accept it. Then choose to make a change or not.


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Snap_Dragon   Woman 40yrs

Not so easy for many




Quoting 'Gr8distraction'



Then choose to make a change or not.

It's not that simple for many people. e.g If you are sick, live with chronic illness (mental and / or physical), have limited mobility, are a single working parent with limited finances and time, and many other life situations which make meeting and socialising with people very challenging.
Regarding social media - although it's certainly a factor in the problem, it's not solely to blame by any means. Also, for some people (such as the groups I mentioned above), social media can be one of their few sources of social interaction so it's not accurate to say that it's always a negative influence.
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egr2please69   Man 49yrs

Good one CT

There is now definite proven evidence and issues with loneliness if you are isolated or feel that way, even in a big metropolis. Like other people in here I choose to live alone and have my own space to do as I please, I classify myself as an extroverted introvert. I love my own company but I also make time for my friends and partners which gives me ample mental and emotional stimulus when I feel I need it and hide away when I'm not feeling the want for company. Each to their own no matter their circumstances but for those who do feel lonely, I hope you can find the courage to talk to someone, anyone, and break the cycle to feel your self worth again.
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SuperFoxxxy   Woman 47yrs

I feel for the seniors

The ones who live alone, no family who visit, with just the radio as company. No internet, FB or anything like that. No wonder their health declines rapidly.

Ms Foxy

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