Singles of QLD

Singles of QLD

    | Feb 19, 2017
HornyBitch6969
Who would be interested in a singles only swingers event?
Clubs cater for couples all the time which is great but what about singles whom are only interested in other singles?
It's time to show these clubs what singles want. Fees for single men need to be reduced for starters and single woman shouldn't be free.


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Mischeviouslad   Man 45yrs

Its economics

I think you'll find that the marketplace dictates the operations of such clubs.

The First Law of economics is Supply & Demand.

There will always be an oversupply of "single" men and an under supply of single women.

The fees charged are intended to help address the imbalance. Fees aside, the mater of Supply v Demand ensures that charging women will highly likely reduce their numbers and further affecting the ratio.

So then you end up with some rather interesting screening/vetting/rating principles for attendees which also alienates those who either don't make the grade, or don't want to be graded in the first place.

The point you are making is fair enough..... but the practicality of it makes it a real problem


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SuperFoxxxy   Woman 45yrs

I think

You will find there's a reason why clubs set the single men fees at the rates they do. It sniffs out the "If I pay the entry fee, so I should be entitled to a fuck" expectation/attitude.

For a single man, it's probably wise to go with a single lady and split the entry cost of a couple fee. It's not guaranteed a root tho. 😉

Ms Foxy
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maluitious   Man 38yrs

I'm certainly interested

I'd be curious to see what, if any, organisational/balance problems arose.
I love playing with couples, bit this could potentially be a lot of fun as well.

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DynamicCouple36  

Couple Man 46yrs Woman 38yrs

Swinging ?

How would an event, only for singles, than be seen as a swingers event?

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HornyBitch6969

Swinging Single

DynamicCouple36

So single people who engages freely in promiscuous sex or group sex aren't classed as swingers?

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Artlover22   Woman 48yrs

I support this topic...

I think the intention of the post is to highlight that a lot of single women go to these clubs... and we are not always interested in just couples. .. it is nice to have choice and variety.

Payment of any fees does not guarantee sex for anyone. .. i understand the point of charging less for men and girls paying a fee.

These clubs are trying to increase the numbers yes... but by attracting more guys.. they will ultimately attract more women... the greater the choice the more interest.

On the nights I have attended there is a good number of single ladies probably more than couples on some occassions...

These clubs are also there to provide a safe environment for women to meet men... many have this written in thier description of events. .. but why would we go as a couple and possibly be caught in a situation if that meet does not go to plan... it is ideal to invite guys and then play it by ear... no expectations.

I am interested to see if anyof the clubs is game to host a singles night similar to vixens and see how the numbers stack up.

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I_touch_myself2   Woman 53yrs

yes

I know what you mean, and agree, particularly with single men being charged more, that sucks. I would only be interested now in singles events and agree singles are overlooked and treated badly. About time they got with the program and catered for our needs. Also cougar/cub events. I was recently asked to an under 30's event, or maybe under 35's? Can't remember exactly, and to that guy, who was under 35, thank you for the offer. I would have accepted and gone with you, but women under 35 could take older men, and that was the reason I declined. Sorry dude, thanks for the offer 😉
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Wouldn't

That just be a night club?

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I_touch_myself2   Woman 53yrs

and

It appears you have to be a couple to be officially classed as a 'swinger'. Wait for it, the dictionary will come out soon lol that's okay, I always hated the term anyway 😉
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I_touch_myself2   Woman 53yrs

how about

'Kinky fuckers' 😀
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Willow_1   Woman 50yrs

Set rate

Fetish and bdsm venues charge a set rate. No gender is cheaper. No couples rates. Bi's, straights, TG,CD,TV's Just likeminded people on an even playing field
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DynamicCouple36  

Couple Man 46yrs Woman 38yrs

Money

Most, if not all, clubs are businesses in it to make money. They have rent and other overheads to pay.

Management of 3 clubs in Melbourne, told us that they make far more money, on the nights that single guys are allowed in. And that because there is such demand, by the single guys to get in (and places limited) they (the clubs) charge a lot more for single guys.

They then went on to say that couples and single females pay a cheaper entry fee for a few reasons (1) they are subsidised by the higher paying single guys (2) without the couples / female half of the couple, and the single females, there would be no "bait" / incentive to attract the higher paying single guys.

It's when the ratios of single guys, to females, are too high, when problems arise. The entry fee only gets you entry to the premises and does not guarantee sex.

We went to a well advertised "house party" once. There were just 4 couples, including ourselves, and upwards of 36 single guys. When the majority of the guys realised they were not going to get laid (neither us nor the couple we were chatting with were at all interested in the snagfest selection on display ) they became all aggressive towards the hosts, demanding their money back. The hosts refused. Clearly they were only in it for the money, hence allowing as many single guys in as possible.

If you make the price for single females / couples too high, they will perhaps stay away, and this will impact negatively on the ratio of males to females, and then the profit of the club/business.

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2Roosters  

Group 39yrs

Well : As two sigle guys

We generally cant get anywhere and yes we have been to few clubs and yes not cheap but when off set with the drink prices probably not that expensive, however to be told yes heaps here and enter to find a very small crowd after paying prices is disappointing. Open discussions initiate change so yes would we attend more if we paid less and also allowd to get in 1 guy yes two very rare. SWINGING thats a reference to a life style choice not a demographic
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purplehaze4u  

Woman 51yrs

Yes

I would be interested in coming to a singles party because I am not interested in playing with couples. Too many restrictions with some couples.

I wouldn't care about paying its really not fair single guys having to pay and single women don't.


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Sensual_chris  

Man 44yrs

Great idea

This sounds like a great idea to cater to singles, as going to the clubs with just the idea of 90% couples that are mostly there looking for other couples makes it is a but harder on the singles guys,or girls. So yes this idea would be great, sign me up

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DynamicCouple36  

Couple Man 46yrs Woman 38yrs

Most do cater for singles

Most of the Melbourne swingers clubs (paid entry) cater for single guys, more often than they do for couples.

For example Attunga, Shed16, Blondeez (there are several more) have open nights (single guys allowed ) every Saturday. Attunga only has a "couples only night" once a month, and so the preferences are certainly tipped in favour of single males for most of the nights. Single females are however allowed in for free , and couples for a fee, on the single nights (obviously if there were no couples / single females on these "open nights" then there would just be a club filled with guys.

At Attunga, the % of single males to couples/females is now strictly monitored. In the past it was not, and there could be upwards of 44 single males to just 4 couples. This caused problems for the couples/single females, and various complaints were made on the forum posts of another swingers site. Management did not want to listen (they were making big bucks out of the single males) and so the single females / couples stayed away from Attunga, and only then did management wake up.

In the 20 odd times we have been to Attunga, we have only ever seen 3 single females in total over this time. They are very rare and they only attended on Couples nights.

From experience, would there be more single females if more single males attended? Certainly not in our experience / observations at Attunga / Shed16 & Wet on Wellington.

Maybe a singles club, go singles only, where the ratios were kept to one single girl yo one one guy, or perhaps one girl to two guys would work better. Historically though, more single guys would turn up at the club wanting to get in. Unicorns on here are hard to find and even rarer at swingers clubs.

At the end of the day, the club owners are in it for the money, and means that their priority is thus to get as many people to attend, and pay the entry fee as possible.

At attunga we sit at the bar, on have noticed that on those nights that single guys are allowed in, the phone rings constantly, and the first thing that the callers ask (management has told us this ) is how many couples are there ? Followed by how many single females are there.

Perhaps it's different for other swingers clubs, who may have a different demographic.

We have also been to several private, invite only house parties. Free entry. And can confirm there were no single guys at all, but that besides the couples, there were also several single females. Not sure why, but perhaps because the attendees were well screened and as such the single females felt safer ? Killing Kittens is another example of a party (albeit paid) that attracts a high number of single females.



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jayme2   Man 53yrs

Why I never attended...

If I ever was to go to a swingers club it would need to be as welcomed addition , not a cash cow. Why would any man part with his hard earned on a maybe ? Obviously the organisers use the old bait and switch method at the expense of the vuneralbility of men desperate for some action. ?

If I was to go , it would be with female friend not as a single.. But then again , I don't go looking . Suppose I should pull the finger out and ask... Any females thinking the same way are quite welcomed to join me...

As far as having singles swingers venue , I think it's a great idea. Don't know the logistics or how you would go about it ... But I'm sure there's room for such a venue somewhere.. ?
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HornyBitch6969

Money

If clubs are all about making money then why would they have a club open with only 4 patrons?
Surely staff and overhead costs outway any profits made on nights like these.
I would happily pay my share to attend a club that caters to my needs. If this is all about money then clubs are missing out big time. Money is to be made with singles whom enjoy this lifestyle. Surely a club with single patrons is better then a club with no patrons. It's common sense!

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DynamicCouple36  

Couple Man 46yrs Woman 38yrs

HornyBitch

There were 4 couples & approx 44 single males. Attunga makes its money from the single males. They now have changed the ratios depending on how many couples on the night in question.

During the week it's a gay club (same as shed 16 and wet in wellington. Were it not for the gay club aspect, we don't think it would survive financially

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DynamicCouple36  

Couple Man 46yrs Woman 38yrs

HornyBitch

Then you will end up with a club filled with single males, and very few single females.

Look at the ratios on RHP. Mainly single male profiles. Many couples profiles / single female profiles are actually males posing as females/ couples, and so the ratios are skewed even more.

We have some clients/friends who are exploring opening up a swingers club and so have been privy to the research & business model

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